WD Easystore 8TB drive - $179.99

[Docjon]

Wow. Truecrypt took less than 5 seconds to open an encrypted volume. Veracrypt just took over 30 seconds.

I need to run a speed test on the new drive - the unencrypted partition. I'm not at all sure it's as fast as it should be. I'll DL crystaldiskmark later.

[Lexx]

Does any of these do just a directory? I used to have one that did and lost track of it, or it doesnt' work with w10.

[Paladin]

Does any of these do just a directory? I used to have one that did and lost track of it, or it doesnt' work with w10.

You can create a folder in it like any HD. What it does is creates an encrypted file on your HD. Or you can encrypt a partition like Doc does. I personally dislike that approach. Much less flexible to me but that is must my opinion. Either way works.

Anyway you create a file that you mount using the software. Like mounting an ISO. Same thing really. It just un-encrypts it first then mounts a drive letter and opens like any HD at that point. You just use it like anything else. Dismount it when you are done. Easy.

Doc if you hate the time it takes, don't use it. Simple man. I personally don't mind it taking a little time, I don't do it often. Takes me about 15 to 30 seconds to mount a 100GB file.

[Docjon]

Truecrypt alternatives:
https://anonymster.com/truecrypt-alternative/

VeraCrypt uses 30 times more iterations when encrypting containers and partitions than TrueCrypt. This means it takes a bit longer for the partition to start up and containers to open, but does not affect application use.

I'll use it. I suppose it's not a good idea to use a program out of development for 3 years, whose failure would result in the loss of gigs of data - but I really don't need that level of protection. Seems like it's "Fuck the NSA" level encryption, or nothing.

[Paladin]

Truecrypt alternatives:
https://anonymster.com/truecrypt-alternative/

VeraCrypt uses 30 times more iterations when encrypting containers and partitions than TrueCrypt. This means it takes a bit longer for the partition to start up and containers to open, but does not affect application use.

I'll use it. I suppose it's not a good idea to use a program out of development for 3 years, whose failure would result in the loss of gigs of data - but I really don't need that level of protection. Seems like it's "Fuck the NSA" level encryption, or nothing.

But that is the best kind. i i

Besides if you die do you really want your family to find all of that clown midget porn? I mean I am your friend and understand but others may not. i i

[Docjon]

Truecrypt alternatives:
https://anonymster.com/truecrypt-alternative/

VeraCrypt uses 30 times more iterations when encrypting containers and partitions than TrueCrypt. This means it takes a bit longer for the partition to start up and containers to open, but does not affect application use.

I'll use it. I suppose it's not a good idea to use a program out of development for 3 years, whose failure would result in the loss of gigs of data - but I really don't need that level of protection. Seems like it's "Fuck the NSA" level encryption, or nothing.

But that is the best kind. i i

Besides if you die do you really want your family to find all of that clown midget porn? I mean I am your friend and understand but others may not. i i

I told you before, man. I like clowns, and I like midgets. I DO NOT like, "clown midgets." Jesus Christ, what kind of sickie do you take me for?

[Docjon]

Well shit, I should have waited a few more days.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11901/we ... astar-hs14

[Docjon]

Update: OK, looks like my old motherboard doesn't like anything above 3TB. Though I'd suspected it was the case, it wasn't all that easy to CONFIRM it. My nifty new 8TB HDD will remain an external drive, until I upgrade my system, anyway. Maybe, if I can find a deal on a fan-cooled single-drive enclosure, I'll pick one up, as the stock one gets quite hot. I'd want one that let me pass the cable through. Not sure what would happen if I removed the stock SATA to USB adapter, then plugged it into an enclosure that would convert the SATA to USB. Don't want something weird to happen to the data already on the drive.

I've used Truecrypt for years, and I'm happy with how it works, and it provides enough security for my needs. HOWEVER, I am concerned that since development ceased 3 or more years back, one of these days a Windows update will break it and leave my Truecrypt partition unusable.

I tried Veracrypt, and it seems just fine, in that it largely works exactly like Truecrypt. Unfortunately, it takes about 30 seconds for it to mount my encrypted partition, AND
THAT'S TOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK-IN' LONG! (Click on that link in front of your boss, and the Pope.)

I haven't fucked about with computers for 35+ years just to end up in 2017 waiting 30 seconds to mound a friggin' partition. Fuck that shit. Truecrypt worries me, Veracript pisses me off. Now I'm playing with Bitlocker. Only problem there is that you have to reboot the machine to lock the partition again, once you've used the password to unlock it. It's for security, but we've already established I don't require high security. There are supposed to be ways around that, with batch files and the like. I'll investigate that later tonight.

[Paladin]

Update: OK, looks like my old motherboard doesn't like anything above 3TB. Though I'd suspected it was the case, it wasn't all that easy to CONFIRM it. My nifty new 8TB HDD will remain an external drive, until I upgrade my system, anyway. Maybe, if I can find a deal on a fan-cooled single-drive enclosure, I'll pick one up, as the stock one gets quite hot. I'd want one that let me pass the cable through. Not sure what would happen if I removed the stock SATA to USB adapter, then plugged it into an enclosure that would convert the SATA to USB. Don't want something weird to happen to the data already on the drive.

I've used Truecrypt for years, and I'm happy with how it works, and it provides enough security for my needs. HOWEVER, I am concerned that since development ceased 3 or more years back, one of these days a Windows update will break it and leave my Truecrypt partition unusable.

I tried Veracrypt, and it seems just fine, in that it largely works exactly like Truecrypt. Unfortunately, it takes about 30 seconds for it to mount my encrypted partition, AND
THAT'S TOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK-IN' LONG! (Click on that link in front of your boss, and the Pope.)

I haven't fucked about with computers for 35+ years just to end up in 2017 waiting 30 seconds to mound a friggin' partition. Fuck that shit. Truecrypt worries me, Veracript pisses me off. Now I'm playing with Bitlocker. Only problem there is that you have to reboot the machine to lock the partition again, once you've used the password to unlock it. It's for security, but we've already established I don't require high security. There are supposed to be ways around that, with batch files and the like. I'll investigate that later tonight.

For fucks sake stay away from bitlocker.
Seriously..

Dude 30 seconds to mount a drive is long? Really? How often do you actually have to unlock it? Sorry dude you are crazy. You don't lock and unlock your porn every half hour.

Any good decryption take a few seconds for fucks sake

BTW I unencrypted my 100 GB file in about 20 seconds so.....I actually tested it for you.

[Docjon]

Update: OK, looks like my old motherboard doesn't like anything above 3TB. Though I'd suspected it was the case, it wasn't all that easy to CONFIRM it. My nifty new 8TB HDD will remain an external drive, until I upgrade my system, anyway. Maybe, if I can find a deal on a fan-cooled single-drive enclosure, I'll pick one up, as the stock one gets quite hot. I'd want one that let me pass the cable through. Not sure what would happen if I removed the stock SATA to USB adapter, then plugged it into an enclosure that would convert the SATA to USB. Don't want something weird to happen to the data already on the drive.

I've used Truecrypt for years, and I'm happy with how it works, and it provides enough security for my needs. HOWEVER, I am concerned that since development ceased 3 or more years back, one of these days a Windows update will break it and leave my Truecrypt partition unusable.

I tried Veracrypt, and it seems just fine, in that it largely works exactly like Truecrypt. Unfortunately, it takes about 30 seconds for it to mount my encrypted partition, AND
THAT'S TOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK-IN' LONG! (Click on that link in front of your boss, and the Pope.)

I haven't fucked about with computers for 35+ years just to end up in 2017 waiting 30 seconds to mound a friggin' partition. Fuck that shit. Truecrypt worries me, Veracript pisses me off. Now I'm playing with Bitlocker. Only problem there is that you have to reboot the machine to lock the partition again, once you've used the password to unlock it. It's for security, but we've already established I don't require high security. There are supposed to be ways around that, with batch files and the like. I'll investigate that later tonight.

For fucks sake stay away from bitlocker.
Seriously..

Dude 30 seconds to mount a drive is long? Really? How often do you actually have to unlock it? Sorry dude you are crazy. You don't lock and unlock your porn every half hour.

Any good decryption take a few seconds for fucks sake

BTW I unencrypted my 100 GB file in about 20 seconds so.....I actually tested it for you.

I will entertain reasons why I should stay away from bitlocker. I haven't heard any reasons why I should be leery of it.

I'm not using a file, I'm using a partition, and it takes 30 seconds, give or take. If it were the only game in town, I might put up with it, but it's not. The only reason why it's taking 25 seconds longer than I'm used to is the hard-ass developers that refuse to let the user choose their acceptable level of security, as Truecrypt did. I see no reason why I should let any software gratuitously inconvenience me.

Truecrypt WAS good encryption, and it didn't annoy me. I could have made it stronger, I didn't want to. Hell, Veracrypt IS TrueCrypt, with some patches and a developer who won't give the end user as many options as Truecrypt did. That's the only difference. That, and presumably, the NSA hasn't muscled them into installing a backdoor, as some ppl think is the reason Truecrypt quit development.

[Docjon]

Once you've unlocked a Bitlocker drive, you're supposed to turn off/reboot your computer to lock it again. There is no way built into explorer to LOCK a Bitlocker drive, once unlocked, short of rebooting. I've heard it leaves the password in memory, and so is insecure unless you do that. Folks have found ways around that anyway.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/374 ... -10-a.html

Seems to work.

[Paladin]

I am out of the conversation then man. If you feel that 30 seconds.... SECONDS, not even a minute, is too long to unlock something that you may unlock once a day at most, then I have nothing more to add.
Are you THAT impatient....I mean REALLY? 30 seconds???? No sir I don't get you at all. i i

If you would be willing to use file/folder encryption you could also simply use the built in windows encryption. You insist on encrypting partitions, which I don't like. Too easy to get corrupted. I have seen it happen here.
Using a simple encrypted file has many advantages. I use a 100GB file which I can backup to another drive easily. I can also simply move it if need be, much more flexible.

BTW Bitlocker is not designed to do what you want and can be a pain in the ass. It is "okay" to encrypt your entire drive so when you log on you have normal access but if someone steals your laptop they can't log into anything. It is not "meant" to encrypt/decrypt on the fly like you want. You ever lose the hash you are fucked.

My only last piece of advice is BACKUP your files to another drive before you lose everything! You keep messing with encrypting/decrypting you take your chances.

Good luck!

[Docjon]

I am out of the conversation then man. If you feel that 30 seconds.... SECONDS, not even a minute, is too long to unlock something that you may unlock once a day at most, then I have nothing more to add.
Are you THAT impatient....I mean REALLY? 30 seconds???? No sir I don't get you at all. i i

If you would be willing to use file/folder encryption you could also simply use the built in windows encryption. You insist on encrypting partitions, which I don't like. Too easy to get corrupted. I have seen it happen here.
Using a simple encrypted file has many advantages. I use a 100GB file which I can backup to another drive easily. I can also simply move it if need be, much more flexible.

BTW Bitlocker is not designed to do what you want and can be a pain in the ass. It is "okay" to encrypt your entire drive so when you log on you have normal access but if someone steals your laptop they can't log into anything. It is not "meant" to encrypt/decrypt on the fly like you want. You ever lose the hash you are fucked.

My only last piece of advice is BACKUP your files to another drive before you lose everything! You keep messing with encrypting/decrypting you take your chances.

Good luck!

If I ever lose the HASH? What? Doesn't it keep track of that shit like Truecrypt, and I keep track of the PASSWORD?

I ASKED why you felt that way about bitlocker. Point me at good webpages/articles if you don't want to take the time to explain it, because I'm just not seeing what you are saying. Plenty of ppl use it for exactly what I'm using it for, and I haven't seen any warnings against it. I looked. I even googled shit like, "why you shouldn't use bitlocker". What did I miss?

I admit I'm no expert, but I'm trying to do the reading.

[Paladin]

I am out of the conversation then man. If you feel that 30 seconds.... SECONDS, not even a minute, is too long to unlock something that you may unlock once a day at most, then I have nothing more to add.
Are you THAT impatient....I mean REALLY? 30 seconds???? No sir I don't get you at all. i i

If you would be willing to use file/folder encryption you could also simply use the built in windows encryption. You insist on encrypting partitions, which I don't like. Too easy to get corrupted. I have seen it happen here.
Using a simple encrypted file has many advantages. I use a 100GB file which I can backup to another drive easily. I can also simply move it if need be, much more flexible.

BTW Bitlocker is not designed to do what you want and can be a pain in the ass. It is "okay" to encrypt your entire drive so when you log on you have normal access but if someone steals your laptop they can't log into anything. It is not "meant" to encrypt/decrypt on the fly like you want. You ever lose the hash you are fucked.

My only last piece of advice is BACKUP your files to another drive before you lose everything! You keep messing with encrypting/decrypting you take your chances.

Good luck!

If I ever lose the HASH? What? Doesn't it keep track of that shit like Truecrypt, and I keep track of the PASSWORD?

I ASKED why you felt that way about bitlocker. Point me at good webpages/articles if you don't want to take the time to explain it, because I'm just not seeing what you are saying. Plenty of ppl use it for exactly what I'm using it for, and I haven't seen any warnings against it. I looked. I even googled shit like, "why you shouldn't use bitlocker". What did I miss?

I admit I'm no expert, but I'm trying to do the reading.

Sorry. Try whatever man. Maybe that will do what you want. The hash is your key, keep it safe is all.

I say again, copy any files before you mess with anything. Good odds your data can get messed up playing with different programs.

[Docjon]

I am out of the conversation then man. If you feel that 30 seconds.... SECONDS, not even a minute, is too long to unlock something that you may unlock once a day at most, then I have nothing more to add.
Are you THAT impatient....I mean REALLY? 30 seconds???? No sir I don't get you at all. i i

If you would be willing to use file/folder encryption you could also simply use the built in windows encryption. You insist on encrypting partitions, which I don't like. Too easy to get corrupted. I have seen it happen here.
Using a simple encrypted file has many advantages. I use a 100GB file which I can backup to another drive easily. I can also simply move it if need be, much more flexible.

BTW Bitlocker is not designed to do what you want and can be a pain in the ass. It is "okay" to encrypt your entire drive so when you log on you have normal access but if someone steals your laptop they can't log into anything. It is not "meant" to encrypt/decrypt on the fly like you want. You ever lose the hash you are fucked.

My only last piece of advice is BACKUP your files to another drive before you lose everything! You keep messing with encrypting/decrypting you take your chances.

Good luck!

If I ever lose the HASH? What? Doesn't it keep track of that shit like Truecrypt, and I keep track of the PASSWORD?

I ASKED why you felt that way about bitlocker. Point me at good webpages/articles if you don't want to take the time to explain it, because I'm just not seeing what you are saying. Plenty of ppl use it for exactly what I'm using it for, and I haven't seen any warnings against it. I looked. I even googled shit like, "why you shouldn't use bitlocker". What did I miss?

I admit I'm no expert, but I'm trying to do the reading.

Sorry. Try whatever man. Maybe that will do what you want. The hash is your key, keep it safe is all.

I say again, copy any files before you mess with anything. Good odds your data can get messed up playing with different programs.

It doesn't ASK me for a hash. It asks me for a password when I want to open the partition, and then it opens. What am I supposed to be doing with a 'hash'? Truecrypt and Veracrypt never asked me for a 'hash' either. I have a "drive encryption recovery key" which I've saved in a few places, including off-computer and in my Gmail draft folder. Not sure when that comes into play, but I have it.

One last stab at making sure we're on the same page: You read where I'M NOT ENCRYPTING MY SYSTEM DRIVE, RIGHT? I'm just encrypting a single partition on an entirely different drive, not even a data partition on my OS drive. Seems to work very similarly to Truecrypt in doing this, except the option to mount it is built into the system menu, and I don't have to run another program.